Friday, November 02, 2007

Graphics Card Confusion

The one part of selecting parts for a computer that consistently confuses me is choosing the graphics card. I'm in the middle of finding the right one myself, and this is what a purchaser should keep in mind.

First of all, figure out your needs. Most of us do not need a $500 part, or a dual card setup. If you just want to step up from your integrated graphics for better DVD viewing, or so that Google Earth runs better, that ok, and you need a low end card. If you want to play some occasional games, but not at the highest settings, than a midrange card will do. Only the dedicated hard core gamers that want the ultimate gaming experience, or those that do serious video editing need to spend a ton on this.

Next, take a look at your system. Take the case apart, and see what is on your motherboard in terms of slots. Are you upgrading a graphics card, or adding one for the first time. Check out the slots you have available. If you have a free PCI-E slot, than this is the most preferred and offers the best performance in terms of available bandwidth. Older motherboards will use the AGP slot, which was replaced by PCI-E, but fret not as there are still cards made for this standard. On some computers, especially cheaper boxes from companies like HP there is not dedicated graphics slot, but a PCI solution can be considered although it has less available bandwidth so this should only be considered if it is the only option.

While we have the case open, there are two other things to check out. First, not that we've identified the slot we're going to use, check out how much room is available. Some of these cards are quite tall, and have fans that make them wide so they may not fit in a smaller case. Also, take note of the power supply wattage as many systems come with an anemic power supply and will not be up to powering a robust card.

Now that we know our needs, and where the card will be going, we can start to shop. Unfortunately, this is quite confusing. Basically, there are two cards manufacturers: ATI and nVidia. ATI makes their own cards, but nVidia only makes the chips, and third party makers put them on the boards. This is why there are so many nVidia boards out there; EVGA is the big name these days.

The cards are numbered. In the nVidia side of things, they get divided into generations for the last several years- 5,6,7,8, the higher number being a more recent series. Within each family, again, the higher number is the better card. For example, a 7600 card is better than a 7300 one, and these are both better than the 7100. However, not all the cards that carry the same number are the same exact part. While they will have the same graphics processor, they often vary in both the amount of RAM, and sometimes in the clock speed this is all running at as the manufacturers can do whatever they want with the chip that nVidia is supplying them.

Among the ATI cards, they don't have such a neat numbering scheme. Generally the higher number cards are the better part.

I find it frustrating that while there are tons of reviews of the higher end stuff, at the low end there is very little data out there. Manufacturers can make whatever claims they want, but it can be a serious crapshoot to know how much better a 7200 will be than a 7100, or whether a 7300 is equivalent to a 6600 or not. Still, if the only alternative is integrated graphics, than we'll pick the best card for our system and needs, and it will always be a step up. Happy shopping!

--Jonas

 

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6 Comments:

Blogger KnightRid said...

Sad truth is the loer end cards dont so anything for gaming and are therefore bundled in a group for non-gamers. I think it sux also! I do know there are a lot fewer differences in the lower end cards so they are more or less equal (to a point).

Dont forget the nice - GT, GTS, GTX, Ultra, OC'd, etc little marks after the gpu number ;)

Mike

Best card right this second for gaming is the 8800GT that was just released - $200-$300. beats the high end cards or stays right with them for half the price.

7:18 AM  
Blogger Gyro Gearloose said...

Well Caveat Emptor when purchasing Nvidia based cards.

I recently attempted an upgrade to my home brew PVR and purchased an 8600GTS from EVGA. It was rated on the Nvidia site as the best card for video.

However, in order for the card to work in my application, I needed to use the video overlay feature which is a common feature in dual port video cards. I use that feature presently in my ATI-1300.

Well I bought the card, installed it, and could not find the video overlay feature. I contacted EVGA support and the tech told me where to find the video overlay in the software setup - except it wasn't there!

Further investigation revealed that Nvidia has disabled the video overlay feature in all of it's 8 series video cards, with absolutely no notification to potential buyers. The reason has something to do with Vista compatibility in it's new drivers. Even though I don't (and won't) use Vista, I'm hung with a Vista compatible driver because apparently Nvidia bundles all of the operating systems in a single driver. I have also been told that Nvidia will not release a pre-Vista driver for it's 8 series cards.

I sent a letter to EVGA and to their credit, a tech actually called me at home and promised to try to find a solution. The EVGA tech was absolutely unaware of the situation with the Nvidia drivers.

This was my first purchase of an Nvidia based card and may very well be my last. So far, EVGA has been very supportive but I have no idea if my issue will be resolved.

So I'm back using the ATI card for now. Nothing is easy anymore!

7:53 AM  
Blogger digitaldoc said...

I've always had the opinion that for exactly the reason you suggested, that it's better to go with ATI. One company supplying both the hardware and the software leads to far less fingerpointing when issues arise. Keep us posted if the EVGA folks do come up with a solution.

9:47 PM  
Blogger KnightRid said...

You could try this - http://tvtool.info/index_e.htm

development has stopped, but you can still download it and give it a shot.

I used to be ATI only until I used the AIW products! Once I found out how much faster the Nvidia chipsets were, I was gone from ATI.

You can still drag the media player to the second screen and have the first screen to work on. Instead of CLONE use, ummm....dunno what it is anymore - maybe dual view? My main setup only uses 1 monitor so I cant see the settings.

Mike

7:16 AM  
Blogger Gyro Gearloose said...

I got another call from EVGA. Turns out, the guy who originally called me was a sales/marketing guy, not tech support. He did put me in touch with a tech support guy who promised to try to resolve the issue.

But frankly, the tech support guy was baffled by what I told him. He asked for all kinds of info and promised to contact me when he had some news. That was over a week ago. My guess he is being stonewalled by NVidia.

Bottom line is, I'm going to keep the card and use it in another machine, although it's overkill. EVGA promised to refund my money if they couldn't resolve the issue, and in this day and age, you don't see that often. I still regard this as an NVidia problem, not an EVGA problem.

Once again, it will be a cold day in hell before I buy another NVidia based video card, no matter how much faster they may be! My hat's off to EVGA for being a stand-up outfit.

12:03 PM  
Blogger digitaldoc said...

Nice to hear that at least they called you back. At this point, I would have gone for the refund and bought something else. I've heard good things about EVGA as well, so it's nice to hear that they do stand behind their product, even if they can't resolve the issue as yet (and I wouldn't hold my breath at the rate we're going here).

In the meantime, I wish that I could get T-Mobile to return a call about my lack of coverage...

1:03 PM  

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